Trans women and their allies will jump over a thousand lesbians’ dead bodies in a rush to deny the entitled, male privileged attitudes that current prominent trans women in the activist community inevitably come with. Yes, it’s so very very important that these very special trans women are still allowed to make misogynistic, bigoted assessments about lesbians’ sexuality, AS ALL MALES DO, that it does not matter that lesbians’ sexuality is trampled over or invisibilized or that lesbians’ voices are SHOUTED OVER and IGNORED in the process.
gee… I wonder why that might be?
- Tobi Hill-Meyer
- Julia Serano
- Ida Hammer
- Natalie Reed
- Twiggy Danger
- Char the Butcher
- Joelle Ruby Ryan
- Indi Edwards
- Jamie “Brynn Cassidy West”
- Allyson “Asshat” Clarke
- Morgan “Cotton Ceiling” Page
- Katy Berger Tremaine
- Lucy Paw/Harriet Vane
- Gemma Seymour-Amper
- Katrina Rose
- Valerie Keefe
- Drew Deveaux
- Annie Danger
- June Day/Angel S.
- Savannah Garmon
- Teresa Ellen Reeves
- Jade Pichette
that’s 22 and I’m sure I didn’t get them all. Feel free to add on to this list. I would simply like people who are on the fence about this issue between trans women vs. lesbians to take a good long look at the trans women who are claiming to be so very oppressed by us terrible lesbians. Would you be just as super sympathetic to a white, heterosexual male trying to get lesbians to fuck him as you would be to the same person who has now “transitioned”?
Also, Jos Truitt.
Posted in Pretendbian
Tagged female, Gay Lesbian and Bisexual, Gender, Gender identity, Indi Edwards, Jos Truitt, Julia Serano, Lesbian, tobi meyer-hill, Trans woman, twiggy danger
Peak Trans was a blog post written by the amazing blogger radicalfeministcrafts in August of 2011. It describes the moment when a previously supportive trans ally becomes “over it.” For radicalfeministcrafts, her peak trans moment, as described in the post (now deleted, RIP) was when she read a blog post by Pretendbian Vexing describing how you must twist your sexual attractions in order to not hurt trans feelings (this foreshadowed the Cotton Ceiling).
Peak Trans: The Tumblr gives you a forum to describe your peak trans moment.
H/T Gay Not Queer for doing this.
And now, without further do do, Peak Trans.
Hope you are well. I am Cathy Brennan, and I am the public face of Pretendbians, a group blog that arose as a direct result of and in response to the Cotton Ceiling debacle. If you don’t know about the Cotton Ceiling, see this link and this link.
I am the public face of Pretendbians because the issue of gender identity in the GLBT Community is a sensitive one, one that Lesbians are afraid to discuss publicly for fear of being threatened or harassed. You may recall that in August 2011, I was one of the women who wrote a respectful letter asking that the definition of gender identity pushed by transgender groups in the United States be revised so as not to incorporate stereotypes about women into law. You may also recall that for that respectful letter, I was threatened with all sorts of violence. You may recall these things because I sent you messages on Facebook about it, but as you never replied, perhaps you didn’t receive them.
I am the public face of Pretendbians because we need to have a public discussion about the issue of gender identity and how it impacts – negatively – Lesbians and Lesbian Community. I am willing to be this public face because I am able to do so, and I could not live with myself if I didn’t try to impact this conversation in a manner that allowed the Lesbian perspective to be heard.
I understand that you receive threats around this issue – so do I. Male violence is a real and significant reality. Male violence fuels much of how this discussion takes place. Male violence demands capitulation.
I don’t want to capitulate. I also don’t want a sister in struggle to decide how Lesbians should discuss the negative impact of gender identity. Tough times demand tough measures. Being nice about it didn’t work. Being nice – standing alone – never works. You need all tactics to move a conversation.
I am grateful, though, that you have noticed this “war” that’s been raging. Help us end it. The concerns about gender identity raised by Lesbians are real and valid and deserve a wider audience.
Thank you, and be well,
P.S. I am only responsible for Pretendbians. I am not responsible for any other blog you mentioned in your interview.
What misogynist bullshit to suggest that we should feel guilty for having been born female. As if we’re not made to feel uncomfortable because of it every day!
After spending several months reading trans activists in an attempt to understand exactly what they want from us, I’ve figured some of it out. These observations don’t describe all trans women, merely the ones who drive the pomo/queer studies-influenced transgender activism that dominates the public discourse on this issue.
Trans women activists write with the assumption that the gender-identity based discrimination they face cannot be addressed without erasing sex-based oppression of females. This is completely untrue, as both concerns can be addressed congruently. The question is why trans women take this extreme stance.
Part of it is that they can’t be regarded as female in the sense that biological females are unless female as a sex class ceases to exist. It’s not good enough for them to be considered women, they’ve got to be seen as female in every sense that biological females are. Trans women are deeply threatened by females discussing their physical realities that trans women don’t share. They want us to shut up about everything that doesn’t involve them.
by Michael Munkvold
Toby Hill-Meyer, while biologically male, feels at least partly feminine in terms of gender identity—an orientation known as transgender. Hill-Meyer is also “genderqueer,” meaning someone who doesn’t completely identify as either a man or a woman. Hill-Meyer, 21, a UO student activist for the university’s Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Questioning Association (LGBTQA), uses either female pronouns (which will be used in this article) or a set of gender pronouns devoid of gender, such as “ze” instead of “he” and “hir” instead of “his.” She wears either unisex clothes or clothes traditionally ascribed to both men and women. She is trying to get on a regimen of female hormones.
Since coming out as transgender and genderqueer at 19, Hill-Meyer has found support from friends and her partner, Alethia, but has also attracted confusion, scorn, and discrimination.
Same sex, different day
I think it’s ironic that so many “radscum” started out being very sympathetic to “trans women” — oftentimes for decades — before “trans women” themselves so viciously transgressed our boundaries, so abusively dismissed our concerns as women, that we were forced to see them for what they (as a group) actually are: entrenched male haters of women.
As a person who was best friends with a couple of gay transvestites down the hall in college, as a person who TOOK A BEATING and ended up in the ER when doing her best to stop a gay-bashing in progress against a small, delicate gay man, as a person who firmly believes that people should be able to be themselves regardless of cultural norms — as long as they’re not actually hurting others — it took a lot of abuse to open my eyes to the abject hatred some (most?) “trans women” have for natal women.
Now I recognize “trans feminism” for what it is: one more way for men to appropriate, re-direct and abuse women’s energy and power — towards their own ends, of course.
Anonymous asked: Hi. Can you tell me what the perfect trans ally for feminism would look like? Or is there one. If we said “Yes, we are male sexed” but also women, would we be accepted as sisters? Can you describe your vision of an alliance between transgender persons and feminism? If we said “Yes. There are differences between us and cis women” would that be enough?
I can tell you how my trans friends who are allies help females.
The trans cult fails Feminism 101
lezzbfriends: The only reason a lot of cis people think being called a “cis person” is bad, or harmful or wrong is because they are used to the privilege of just being seen as a “person” or even a “normal person” without their sex or gender or gender identity being an issue for them. You see, when you call them “cis” suddenly they are not just a person, but now they have to think about a gender identity. Suddenly they are no better than a Trans* person. And that scares the shit out of them.
magicpoppy: Under patriarchy, females are not considered “normal persons.” The male body is considered to be the default human body. No female bodied person, regardless of her race or class, has this privilege. “Gender identity” is an issue for females because females never chose the feminine gender role. The feminine gender role was invented by and most importantly is enforced by males. It is not a privilege because it has never been voluntary for females, despite the fact that many trans women seek to leap into that feminine gender box. We’ve spent our whole lives there. Trans women don’t get to tell us that it’s a privilege to live in that box because it looks wonderful to them from the other sex.
When Trans Women Tell Females We Are Ugly… Read This:
Rose Verbena: LOL at the “you’re fugly and your mama dresses you funny” talk. You have no idea what I look like. You’ve never seen my silky-smooth, pendulous, natural breasts. You’ve never seen my big, brown eyes with the long, silky lashes. You’ve never seen my full, womanly hips, my long, tapered fingers, my 100% natural full, juicy lips. You’ve never seen my pink, petaled vulva or felt my salty-sweet, perfectly healthy, natural vagina. And you never will. But you can imagine what my womanly body is like — and you know that you will never, ever have one.
Today I received the following text message from 1-717-574-8727. It says: “How can you say you’re a feminist when you actively stalk and harass other women? What do you possibly gain from making yet another woman feel unsafe for simply existing?”
Recently, some of us plain old gays and lesbians have taken to Tumblr to discuss gender identity. One of the blogs on Tumblr that we like best is Gay Not Queer.